The US agency that had the in-country rep at court late this afternoon/evening has stated that the rep was told to return to court this Wednesday. The agency has not received details on what was discussed in court but will let the families know as soon as they hear anything.
Okay. It seems like they're going to keep saying "come back Wednesday, come back next week, come in 2 weeks" like they have been, all the way up until the court closure, and then they'll say "come back when the court re-opens". This is the most frustrating thing I have ever experienced in my life.
ReplyDeleteI'm so sick of hearing this crap. It's the same thing every week. I'm honestly beginning to believe that whatever is being done IS NOT being done in the best interest of the children! They obviously don't give a rat's @$$ about us adoptive parents, but I would think they would expedite this for the kid's sake.
ReplyDeleteI've never heard of anything as ridiculous as this situation in my entire life. I can hardly even believe it is real...
ReplyDeletethis is really a bad story, our son is sick and already staying in the orphanage since september 2009
ReplyDeletecourtdate was normally 3 june
i am getting tired of hearing come back later ...
I really believe that progress is being made. I don't believe the posts that claim that their agencies have been told to come back now and then and whenever. I think that is what the agencies are telling their clients but not what the "official" court personal are telling them. I don't think that it is a secret that the investigation is over. It is just a matter of when the next step will happen. I have said this over and over, if you want the facts go to the state department website. You are going to be angry and disappointed even more than you already are if you believe these ridiculous posts. It is not being contested that what is being done is definitely not in the best interest of our kids BUT it is in the best interest of the children of the program as a whole....at our expense. Clearly, this is not the best for our kids who have homes to go to.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, but the posts from my agency are true. I know that they have a dedicated staff in country-who don't HAVE to spend their whole day in court but choose to for the sake of OUR kids. Why would they make up something just to disappoint us?
ReplyDeleteSo Anon, 2:54 are you saying you think the agencies that are telling their families this info about appearing in court, ect are lying to them?
ReplyDeleteOn the one hand you say "I don't think that it is a secret that the investigation is over." and on the other hand you say nothing is true unless the State Department says it? The State Department has not said the investigation is over, when very clearly, according to countless sources, it is. I believe my rep when they say they were told to come back. Why would they make that up? We get no updates from them EVER and when they finally update us, they tell us they were told to come back. If it were a lie, they would have just given us no information, like they usually do.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, I don't have any hope for Wednesday, but I think it is the court stringing us along, not the agencies. And by the time the State Dept makes an official announcement I'll probably have my child home! ;-)
That post from the person who thinks our agencies are not being honest with us, makes me a bit angry. I have faith in my agency. They hold conference calls, daily emails and anything they can to support us families in this situation. I think your post is ridiculous for claiming that this info is false.
ReplyDeleteAND FYI, Anon 2:54, the state website is VERY delayed in getting information up!
Anon 2:54, the state dept hasn't been updated since 5/26, and doesn't even say the investigation is over, which you say is no secret. I agree that it is disappointing and frustrating to come here every day and read depressing posts, but it would be just as hard to go there and read NOTHING. Our agency went on July 2 and 3 and was told both times to come back on another day. I'm sure they aren't lying to us. If I thought they would ever do that, I would be a lot more upset than I already am. (if that's even possible.)
ReplyDeletePS- I'm anon 3:15. I'm with a different agency than the one this post is from. I really don't think all the agencies saying they were told to come back are all lying.
ReplyDeleteTo let everyone know...when you get a person like in the post above, just ignore. We need positive energy here! Positive thoughts!
ReplyDeleteI am not saying they are lying - just giving you all false hope. I am just being realistic. Until you have a court date, don't get excited and even then, your court date can change for months. If someone had official news that the ban has been lifted then maybe I would be excited. I don't think it is a secret that the investigation is over because with all of the rumors milling around it seems that is the only consistent one (and people keep announcing it as if it is the first time that it has been posted). IF you want to be naive, go ahead. Sorry to burst your bubbles. Don't be mad at me for having an opinion - obviously you have yours too and I could be equally as mad for all of the false hope being spread. Back off. Continue to have faith in your agencies but don't be foolish. You can't believe everything people say. I don't fully believe my agency when they tell me that they don't have news but I do believe that they hear rumors that they don't spread. If it makes you feel better to be angry at me for being realistic, by all means - I am happy to be your punching bag. Good luck!
ReplyDeleteOh and I just realized based on last Friday's ridiculous posts that you all like to have someone to gang up on....so by all means, ignore me, yell at me, do whatever the hell you want - it won't bring your kids home more quickly.
ReplyDeleteOk, Debbie Downer.
ReplyDeleteI see what you are saying at that you are being realistic. You are right, but I think what people are more offended is that you are stating the agencies are not being truthful. Its just really an insult making statements like that.
Truthfully, I think that if the courts are telling agencies to come back another day it is to get rid of them for a bit so they can work. I am not insulting agencies but if people are insecure I can see why they would take it that way, and I can understand insecure feelings right now. I am not Debbie Downer - the only way I am able to keep going everday is by not buying into each "come back tomorrow, Wednesday, Thursday, next week." I still have hope that this will be resolved before the court closure just not for the same reason as it seems most people believe on this blog. I do not mean to make folks feel badly - that is totally not my intent at all! I guess the lawyer in me is just trying to be the voice of reason.
ReplyDeletemy goodness - who needs reality TV?! perhaps we should lobby for Ethiopian gov't to cover the cost of valium during this trying process ;)
ReplyDeletei'm a realist...and i know that this has to break open at some point. i really thought it'd be sooner though, like a couple of weeks ago. so i agree, it's beyond ridiculous the "come back on ----" over and over. but i keep telling myself that any day now... my big worry is that nasty court closure looming so close now. so we wait a couple more days to see if we're made fools of yet again ;) sadly, what other choice do we have?
I absolutely agree with you - no choice. I am a person, believe it or not, who hates blogs...and I am ADDICTED to this one because I want to be hopeful - I truly am not trying to bring anyone down... I will keep my realism to myself I guess...sorry. BUT you can still yell at me and use me as a punching bag if it makes y'all feel better... ;)
ReplyDeleteHaha...valium...can I get some of that...please...
ReplyDeleteWouldnt it be so much easier if we knew what was happening behind the scenes! I think we would feel so much better to have some insight, but the ET Government doesnt work that way. Oh well.
ReplyDeleteI hope we all get relief soon. Anon-lawyer..no big shakes..I think it just is hard to hear the facts. Everyone is dangling from an thread of emotion and it feels like its about to break!
anon 4:41...my thread broke about a week and a half ago ;) i fell hard, too. i'm the one lobbying for valium! gosh, i just don't know what to do with myself! and normally, i'm a completely balanced, sane, que sera sera type person...
ReplyDeletesince we're vetting all on here, here's my "losing it" story: hadn't painted the nursery yet. was about to when the "delay" was announced. but have been collecting new clothes, some toys, formula, etc. stashing them in the nursery-to-be. well, the other day i decided i had absolutely had it with all this nonsense. marched (literally) down to garage, grabbed a few of those giant outdoor trash bags, went back up to room and proceeded to toss EVERYTHING into bags. couldn't fit new, expensive stroller in so just threw that down the stairs. heaved and pulled bags out to garage and threw them into husband's parking spot (like it's his fault!). heart racing, pulse pounding, breathing hard. and all this time i KNOW i'm behaving like irrational CRAZY person. but boy! did it feel good...
yup, judge me if you want but it's what i needed to do at the time ;)
so how are YOU all coping???? obviously, i need some suggestions!
I have moments too. My case manager during the referral wait kept telling me, to get the nursery ready! Ok, so its been since May..and I dont even look at the completed nursery and closet FULL of clothes that will not fit our baby. I cry hard once a week and just try to live the rest of the week. No fun, but hopefully soon...right?
ReplyDeleteWe should be traveling this month, but we are not. ARRGGHHHH.,. I want to know who has the valium! I do believe we will have an answer on Wednesday, my agency who has been quiet about EVERYTHING since the first week of may told me about Wednesday! I believe. However, I also believe in big foot, the loch ness monster, aliens and the chubacabra. So much for my credibility!
ReplyDeleteI think it is Wednesday too - for no other reason than gut but I am the one everyone on here hates because I like to be realistic.
ReplyDeleteThe way that I deal is to try and focus on the silver linings...like knowing that my child is being taken very good care of and that he is NOT one of the children caught up in the scandal and then I also cry and stare off into space a lot. Oh and I work out like a fiend...and then pig-out!
OK. I will try to add to the humor. Knowing that this delay was in place and trying to distract my ever present need to nurture, I decided to get CHICKENS!!! I was on cloud 9. I'm no farmgirl, although I do live in Wisconsin. ANYWAY...the kids named the chickens. They get more love than any hens anywhere. Last night, disaster struck. Two of the chickens wondered into the doggy area and our German Shorthair and Newfoundland caught them. Feathers everywhere. Up until last night, I had only a few minor moments of tears and utter frustration in coping with being on maternity leave with no baby to welcome. Last night I LOST IT. The chicken thing just did me in. It put a VISUAL on my pain. I know its absolutely bizarre. So. I am trying again. Lesson learned. More chickens coming this week...fresh eggs and family fun. Better than valium.
ReplyDeletePerspective:
ReplyDeleteI waited until I was 41 to have my first son, told I never would, miracle baby came, two years later, told it was a fluke, at 43 miracle baby 2 came, waiting two years for my daughter from China....... now on 16 months from referral for my daughter from Ethiopia....... May to July...three months??!! that's nothing!
It doesn't matter who's been waiting how long. Everyone has their own personal pain...
ReplyDeleteHere's how I'm dealing with waiting for a court date (BTW: I've "only" been waiting for a few months): eating--A LOT! It's not very effective but it's one of my only vices and I'm not giving it up. (I have been trying to balance it out with exercise). Other than that, I've been moping around and when I manage to pull myself out of it then I try to really enjoy my son (BTW, we waited for 5 years for him).
Good luck and strength to us all!!
like you said, everyone has their own personal pain. Some of us have NO children at home to focus on.
ReplyDeleteYeap, this kid would (or will) be our first.
ReplyDeleteOur rep. was also told to return on Wednesday (tomorrow).
It will be our first too...
ReplyDeleteDoes anybody know for certain whether or not the court is abandoning their holiday this summer?
ReplyDeleteAnon 8:38........Our in-country rep reported having heard that rumor about the courts not closing. That, however, along with every other bit of info tied to this nightmare is entirely unofficial and unconfirmed.....
ReplyDeleteMercedes
I just noticed that the State Department updates are from the Dept. of Childrens Issues (not "affairs"). That is interesting since that is the office that verbally confirmed the ban (Ms. Ruth Lincoln) well before the State Dept alert. I blame it on beauracrazy. Misspelled on purpose!
ReplyDeleteFor those without kids at home...I have been very thankful for the kids I have at home to inspire me through these days and all days. I am sooooo excited for you and for your lucky kids!